{"id":7199,"date":"2014-09-21T20:38:06","date_gmt":"2014-09-22T00:38:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~woit\/wordpress\/?p=7199"},"modified":"2014-09-24T11:16:53","modified_gmt":"2014-09-24T15:16:53","slug":"planck-its-just-dust","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~woit\/wordpress\/?p=7199","title":{"rendered":"Planck: It&#8217;s Just Dust"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The Planck paper with results on dust in the BICEP2 patch of sky is now out, see <a href=\"http:\/\/arxiv.org\/abs\/1409.5738\">here<\/a>.  I&#8217;m sure experts will weigh in soon and I&#8217;ll link to such discussions, but my non-expert take is that Planck is saying that what BICEP2 saw is likely just dust. See section 6 of the paper, especially figure 9 which appears to show that BICEP2&#8217;s claimed value of r=.2 is just what you&#8217;d expect from dust.<br \/>\n<strong><br \/>\nUpdate<\/strong>:  More details from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.simonsfoundation.org\/quanta\/20140921-big-bang-signal-could-all-be-dust-planck-says\/\">Natalie Wolchover<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/2014\/09\/21\/planck-speaks-bad-news-for-primordial-gravitational-waves\/\">Sean Carroll<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Looks like Scientific American will have to pulp this month&#8217;s magazine, with its <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scientificamerican.com\/article\/how-big-bang-gravitational-waves-could-revolutionize-physics\/\">Lawrence Krauss cover story<\/a> about how BICEP2 is experimental evidence for quantum gravity and the multiverse.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Update<\/strong>: For more press coverage, see <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nature.com\/news\/full-galaxy-dust-map-muddles-search-for-gravitational-waves-1.15975\">Nature<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newscientist.com\/article\/dn26248-ripples-from-dawn-of-creation-vanish-in-a-puff-of-dust.html\">New Scientist<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bbc.com\/news\/science-environment-29305985\">BBC News<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/science\/2014\/sep\/22\/gravitational-waves-space-dust?CMP=twt_gu\">The Guardian<\/a>, the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/blogs\/achenblog\/wp\/2014\/09\/22\/planck-satellite-shows-bicep2-telescope-mhttp:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/blogs\/achenblog\/wp\/2014\/09\/22\/planck-satellite-shows-bicep2-telescope-make-have-seen-dust-not-the-big-bang\/ake-have-seen-dust-not-the-big-bang\/\">Washington Post<\/a>, the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailymail.co.uk\/sciencetech\/article-2765084\/Was-Big-Bang-signal-just-DUST-Scientists-observed-polluted-skies-not-beginning-universe-experts-claim.html\">Daily Mail<\/a> and the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2014\/09\/23\/science\/space\/study-confirms-criticism-of-big-bang-finding.html\">New York Times<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>The best explanation for all this that I&#8217;ve seen of course is from a blogger, Sesh Nadathur at <a href=\"http:\/\/blankonthemap.blogspot.com\/2014\/09\/biting-dust.html\">Blank on the Map<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p><strong>Update<\/strong>:  Jester has a sensible take on this fiasco <a href=\"http:\/\/resonaances.blogspot.com\/2014\/09\/bicep-what-was-wrong-and-what-was-right.html\">here<\/a>.  It <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nature.com\/news\/full-galaxy-dust-map-muddles-search-for-gravitational-waves-1.15975\">now seems<\/a> that release of the full Planck polarization results has been pushed back from October to &#8220;late November&#8221;, just before the early December conference planned long ago to discuss the results.  The joint analysis of BICEP2\/Planck data that will show if there&#8217;s any evidence of something besides dust is supposed to be released at the same time.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Planck paper with results on dust in the BICEP2 patch of sky is now out, see here. I&#8217;m sure experts will weigh in soon and I&#8217;ll link to such discussions, but my non-expert take is that Planck is saying &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~woit\/wordpress\/?p=7199\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-7199","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~woit\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7199","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~woit\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~woit\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~woit\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~woit\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=7199"}],"version-history":[{"count":7,"href":"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~woit\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7199\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":7212,"href":"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~woit\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7199\/revisions\/7212"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~woit\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=7199"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~woit\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=7199"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~woit\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=7199"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}