{"id":694,"date":"2008-05-29T16:27:06","date_gmt":"2008-05-29T21:27:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~woit\/wordpress\/?p=694"},"modified":"2008-07-03T09:57:39","modified_gmt":"2008-07-03T14:57:39","slug":"p5-report","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~woit\/wordpress\/?p=694","title":{"rendered":"P5 Report"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A <a href=\"http:\/\/www.science.doe.gov\/hep\/HEPAP_P5 Report_JB.pdf\">new P5 report<\/a> is out, and being discussed at the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.science.doe.gov\/hep\/HEPAPAgendaMay2008.html\">HEPAP meeting<\/a> in Washington today.  The charge to P5 was to develop tentative 10 year plans for US HEP, under 3 scenarios:\t<\/p>\n<li>Scenario A: funding at the current post-budget cut level of $688 million for the DOE.<\/li>\n<li>Scenario B: funding at the pre-budget cut (2007) level of $752 million for the DOE.<\/li>\n<li>Scenario C: a doubling of the budget over 10 years, starting from the 2007 level.<\/li>\n<p>This report updates earlier ones and the EPP2010 report in light of new realities, specifically acknowledgement that the cost of the ILC means it&#8217;s not happening anytime soon, and the grim budget situation caused by the recent budget cuts for this year.  To be honest, it&#8217;s very unclear to me how anyone can sensibly carry through this kind of exercise right now.  With the supplemental appropriation still up in the air at the House and the Senate, it&#8217;s hard to know what the US HEP budget will be next month, much less next year, or over 10 years.  The LHC startup is only months away, and how long that takes and what the LHC shows are crucial things for any future planning.  <\/p>\n<p>In the report, the field is broken into three parts:\t<\/p>\n<li>The Energy Frontier: experiments at the highest possible CM energies.  This is the Tevatron now, the LHC soon, and  a possible electron collider later.<\/li>\n<li>The Luminosity Frontier:  experiments at the highest possible event rates.  This include neutrino experiments and searches for rare decays.  The proposed &#8220;Project X&#8221; at Fermilab is the main possible new machine here.<\/li>\n<li>The Cosmic Frontier:  astro-particle physics studies of dark energy and dark matter, study of astrophysical sources of high energy particles and neutrinos.<\/li>\n<p>One crucial decision that will need to be made soon is how long to run the Tevatron.  The report says to continue support &#8220;for the next one to two years&#8221;, with two only in the optimistic scenario C.  On the question of the ILC, the report describes &#8220;a wide range of opinion&#8221; in the HEP community and on the panel.  Opinions about both of these may very well change over the next year depending on what happens at the LHC.<\/p>\n<p>In both scenarios A and B, the report envisages cutting staff at the national labs, in favor of preserving support for research based at universities.<\/p>\n<p>Other blogs posting about this <a href=\"http:\/\/gordonwatts.wordpress.com\/2008\/05\/29\/watch-this-space\/\">here<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.symmetrymagazine.org\/breaking\/2008\/05\/29\/p5-report-presented-to-hepap\/\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Update<\/strong>:  Science magazine this week has two excellent articles by Adrian Cho, about the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sciencemag.org\/cgi\/content\/full\/320\/5880\/1148\">problems facing Fermilab<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sciencemag.org\/cgi\/content\/full\/320\/5880\/1150\">the ILC<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Update<\/strong>:  The final P5 report is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.science.doe.gov\/hep\/HEPAP\/reports\/P5_Report%2006022008.pdf\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A new P5 report is out, and being discussed at the HEPAP meeting in Washington today. 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