{"id":13796,"date":"2024-01-20T17:10:42","date_gmt":"2024-01-20T22:10:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~woit\/wordpress\/?p=13796"},"modified":"2024-01-22T10:00:14","modified_gmt":"2024-01-22T15:00:14","slug":"particle-physics-is-not-in-crisis","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~woit\/wordpress\/?p=13796","title":{"rendered":"Particle Physics Is Not In Crisis"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>For a low-rent version of the self-congratulatory program discussed <a href=\"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~woit\/wordpress\/?p=13770\">here<\/a>, Bad Boy of Science Sam Gregson has a new video up entitled <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=d7zF_pDRgaM\">Particle Physics Is Not In Crisis &#8211; but we can make improvements<\/a>.  Cliff Burgess plays the Strominger role, explaining that the idea that there&#8217;s any problem with what&#8217;s going on in particle theory is &#8220;a nothing-burger&#8221; and &#8220;a complete non-issue&#8221;.  Asked to rank any such problem on a scale of 0-10, he gives the Strominger-esque &#8220;.0001&#8221;.  Martin Bauer goes for &#8220;1&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>The take on the question is much the same as <a href=\"https:\/\/www.preposterousuniverse.com\/podcast\/2023\/07\/31\/245-solo-the-crisis-in-physics\/\">Sean Carroll&#8217;s four-hour plus explanation that there is no problem<\/a>, but shorter.  It&#8217;s similar to Carroll in that no one who thinks there is a problem was invited to participate, or even gets mentioned by name.  There&#8217;s a repeated reference to mysterious &#8220;Twitter influencers&#8221;, which I find very confusing because just about the only particle theorists I see spending time on Twitter going on about the state of the field are Bauer and Burgess. They can&#8217;t mean me since I&#8217;ve so far resisted the temptation to enter Twitter discussions.  The idea of trying to have a serious discussion of complex scientific issues in the Twitter format never made any sense to me, and (StringKing aside) I find it hard to think of any tweets by anyone that shed any light on serious issues in this area.<\/p>\n<p>The more serious part of the program was the discussion among the two HEP experimentalists of the state of their field, which got a 5-6 on the crisis level scale. I wrote about the problem there <a href=\"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~woit\/wordpress\/?p=10768\">five years ago<\/a>, and very little has changed, other than that we&#8217;re five years closer to the date when there will no longer be an energy frontier machine running anywhere in the world.  The underlying problem wasn&#8217;t really explained.  CERN is working on it, but there is as of now no specific plan with specific budget numbers for what to build next.  Maybe I misunderstood, but it seemed that Bauer and others were talking about how the field just needed to convince funding agencies to support budget numbers of order \\$100 billion, which is a pipe dream. <\/p>\n<p><strong>Update<\/strong>:  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.preposterousuniverse.com\/podcast\/2024\/01\/22\/263-chris-quigg-on-symmetry-and-the-birth-of-the-standard-model\/\">Latest podcast from Sean Carroll<\/a> has nothing to do with the crisis in particle physics, but he starts off anyway with this:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>You may have heard there is a crisis in physics. No, there&#8217;s not. I mean, there&#8217;s little tiny crises, but that&#8217;s the very standard procedure if you&#8217;re doing science at the cutting edge, is all sorts of puzzles that we don&#8217;t know the answer to. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&#8220;Little tiny crises&#8221; is I guess his version of the Cliff Burgess &#8220;.0001&#8221; and Andy Strominger &#8220;A+++&#8221;.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>For a low-rent version of the self-congratulatory program discussed here, Bad Boy of Science Sam Gregson has a new video up entitled Particle Physics Is Not In Crisis &#8211; but we can make improvements. 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