{"id":12401,"date":"2021-07-12T16:53:27","date_gmt":"2021-07-12T20:53:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~woit\/wordpress\/?p=12401"},"modified":"2021-07-12T16:58:18","modified_gmt":"2021-07-12T20:58:18","slug":"deterioration-of-the-worlds-thinking-about-the-deepest-stringy-ideas","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~woit\/wordpress\/?p=12401","title":{"rendered":"Deterioration of the World&#8217;s Thinking About the Deepest Stringy Ideas"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>For quite a few years now, I&#8217;ve been mystified about what is going on in string theory, as the subject has become dominated by AdS\/CFT inspired work which has nothing to do with either strings or any visible idea about a possible route to a unified fundamental theory. This work is very much dependent on choosing a special background, in tension with the idea that, whatever string theory is, it&#8217;s supposed to be a unique theory that relates all possible backgrounds. This issue came up in a <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/sMvbtgE-idQ\">discussion session at Strings 2021<\/a>, and it turns out that others are wondering about this too. There&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/motls.blogspot.com\/2021\/07\/evolution-deterioration-of-worlds.html\">this today from Lubos Motl<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Aside from more amazing things, the AdS\/CFT correspondence became just a recipe for people to do rather uninspiring copies of the same work, in some AdS<sub>5<\/sub>\/CFT<sub>4<\/sub> map, and what they were actually thinking was always a quantum field theory, typically in D=4 (and it was likely to be lower, not higher, if it were a different dimension!) whose final answers admit some interpretation organized as a calculation in AdS<sub>5<\/sub>. But as Vafa correctly emphasized, this is just a tiny portion of the miracle of string\/M-theory \u2013 and even the whole AdS\/CFT correspondence is a tiny fraction of the string dualities.<\/p>\n<p>This superficial approach \u2013 in which people reduced their understanding of string theory and its amazing properties to some mundane, constantly repetitive ideas about AdS\/CFT, especially those that are just small superconstructions added on top of 4D quantum field theories \u2013 got even worse in the recent decade when the &#8220;quantum information&#8221; began to be treated as a part of &#8220;our field&#8221;. Quantum information is a legitimate set of ideas and laws but I think that in general, this field adds nothing to the fundamental physics so far which would go beyond the basic postulates of quantum mechanics&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>When Cumrun correctly mentioned that the real depth of string theory is really being abandoned, Harlow responded by saying that there were some links of quantum information to AdS\/CFT, the latter was a duality, and that was important. But that is a completely idiotic way of thinking, as Vafa politely pointed out, because string theory (and even string duality) is so much more than the AdS\/CFT. In fact, even AdS\/CFT is much more than the repetitive rituals that most people are doing 99% of their time when they are combining the methods and buzzwords of &#8220;AdS\/CFT&#8221; and &#8220;quantum information&#8221;. Many people are really not getting deeper under the surface; they are remaining on the surface and I would say that they are getting more superficial every day.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>According to Lubos, he&#8217;s not the only one who feels this way, with an &#8220;anonymous Princeton big shot&#8221; agreeing with him (hard to think of anyone else this could be other than Nima Arkani-Hamed):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>There is a sociological problem \u2013 coming from the terrifying ideological developments in the whole society \u2013 that is responsible for this evolution. I have been saying this for a decade or two as well \u2013 and now some key folks at Princeton and elsewhere told me that they agreed. The new generation that entered the field remains on the surface because it really lacks the desire to arrive with new, deep, stunning, revolutionary ideas that will show that everyone else was blind. Instead, the Millennials are a generation that prefers to hide in a herd of stupid sheep and remain at the surface that is increasingly superficial&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>So most of the stuff that is done in &#8220;quantum information within quantum gravity&#8221; is just the work of mediocre people who want to keep their entitlements but who don&#8217;t really have any more profound ambitions. As the aforementioned anonymous Princeton big shot told me, their standards have simply dropped significantly. The toy models in the &#8220;quantum information&#8221; only display a very superficial resemblance to the theories describing Nature. That big shot correctly told me that in the early 1980s, Witten was ready to abandon string theory because it had some technical problems with getting chiral fermions and their interactions correctly.<\/p>\n<p>Harlow says that many of the people \u2013 who may be speakers at the annual Strings conference and who may call themselves &#8220;string theorists&#8221; when they are asked \u2013 don&#8217;t really know even the basics of string theory. And they can get away with it. Just like there is the &#8220;grade inflation&#8221; and the &#8220;inflation of degrees&#8221;, there is &#8220;inflation in the usage of the term string theorist&#8221;. Tons of people are using it who just shouldn&#8217;t because they are not experts in the field at all. Harlow said that many of those don&#8217;t understand supersymmetry, string theory etc. but it&#8217;s worse. I think that many of them don&#8217;t really understand things like chiral fermions, either. It&#8217;s implicitly clear from the direction of the &#8220;quantum information in quantum gravity&#8221; papers and their progress, or the absence of this progress to be more precise. They just don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s important to get their models to a level that would be competitive with the previous candidates for a theory of everything \u2013 like the perturbative heterotic string theory, M-theory on G<sub>2<\/sub> manifolds, braneworlds, and a few more. They are OK with writing a toy model having &#8220;something that superficially resembles a spacetime&#8221; and they want to be satisfied with that forever.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I don&#8217;t want to start here an ad hominem discussion of Lubos and his often extreme and eccentric views.  On the topic though of the devolution of string theory as a TOE to playing with toy models of AdS\/CFT using quantum information, it seems quite plausible that not only the &#8220;anonymous Princeton big shot&#8221; but quite a few other theoretical physicists see the current situation as problematic.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>For quite a few years now, I&#8217;ve been mystified about what is going on in string theory, as the subject has become dominated by AdS\/CFT inspired work which has nothing to do with either strings or any visible idea about &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~woit\/wordpress\/?p=12401\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[20],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-12401","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-strings-2xxx"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~woit\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12401","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~woit\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~woit\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~woit\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~woit\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=12401"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~woit\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12401\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":12408,"href":"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~woit\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12401\/revisions\/12408"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~woit\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=12401"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~woit\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=12401"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~woit\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=12401"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}