{"id":3014,"date":"2013-01-26T19:38:22","date_gmt":"2013-01-26T19:38:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/math.columbia.edu\/~dejong\/wordpress\/?p=3014"},"modified":"2013-01-29T12:50:36","modified_gmt":"2013-01-29T12:50:36","slug":"example-please","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~dejong\/wordpress\/?p=3014","title":{"rendered":"Example please!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Can you, dear reader, send me (or post in comments) an example of a Noetherian ring A and finite A-modules M, N such that the canonical map<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>RHom_A(M, A) &otimes;^L_A N &#8212;&#8211;> RHom_A(M, N)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>is not an isomorphism in D(A)? Much obliged.<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<\/p>\n<p><strong>Update Jan 27, 2013.<\/strong> Bhargav emailed me the following observation. Any mistakes are mine.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Lemma<\/strong> If A has a dualizing complex &omega; and the map is an isomorphism for every M, N then A has to be Gorenstein.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Proof.<\/strong> Denote the map above f_{M, N}. Then f_{M, N} is also an isomorphism for any M, N \\in D^b_{Coh}(A) by triangles. Now choose M = N = &omega;. Then RHom(&omega;, &omega;) = A, so &omega; is invertible for the derived tensor product. This forces &omega; to be (locally) the shift of an invertible module by the following lemma. <strong>End.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Lemma<\/strong> If A is a Noetherian local ring and K is in D^b_{Coh}(A) and K &otimes;^L_A M = A for some object M of D(A), then K is the shift of an invertible A-module.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Proof.<\/strong> Observe that K can be represented by a bounded above complex K^* of finite free A-modules all of whose differentials are zero modulo the maximal ideal m_A of A. Let k be the residue field of A. We have<\/p>\n<p>k = A &otimes;^L_A k = (K &otimes;^L_A M) &otimes;^L_A k = (K &otimes;^L_A k) &otimes;^L_k (M &otimes;^L_A k)<\/p>\n<p>The lemma is clear for D(k) as this is the category of graded k-vector spaces. We conclude that K &otimes;^L_A k which is represented by K^* &otimes;_A k is isomorphic to k[a] for some integer a. Thus we conclude that K^{-a} = A and K^n = 0 for other n as desired. <strong>End.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The conclusion from the comments below is that the ring of dual numbers k[\\epsilon] does satisfy the property that f_{M, N} is an isomorphism for all M, N finite. [This is wrong! See update below.] This is a Gorenstein ring so there is no contradiction. On the other hand the ring R = k[x, y, w]\/(x^2, y^2, xw \u2013 yw, w^2) does not satisfy the property, which now also follows from Bhargav&#8217;s observation as this ring isn&#8217;t Gorenstein (the socle has dimension 2).<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<\/p>\n<p><strong>Update Jan 29, 2013.<\/strong> Actually, Bhargav send me the following update. As usual any and all mistakes are mine.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Lemma<\/strong> If the map is an isomorphism for all finite M,N, then A is regular.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Proof.<\/strong> A is Gorenstein as before, so A has finite injective dimension. Hence, RHom(M,A) is a finite A-complex for any M. Then RHom(M,A) (x) N is bounded above (being the derived tensor product of two bounded above A-complexes). On the other hand, the right hand side is not bounded above if A is not regular. For example if A is local with residue field k, we could take M = N = k, in which case Ext^i_A(k,k) is non-zero for arbitrarily large i (as the minimal free resolution does not terminate). <strong>End.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>In particular, this shows that the map is not an isomorphism for A = k[x]\/(x^2), and M = N  = k. This contradict the discussion above in the comments. The mistake I (and I think also Ben) made is that in computing the LHS for A = k[&epsilon;] = k[x]\/(x^2), and M = N = k I took a free resolution of k over k[&epsilon;], then I took the dual of this complex and used it to compute the left hand side. But a complex of free A-modules isn&#8217;t K-flat so can&#8217;t be used to compute the derived tensor product&#8230; Argh!<\/p>\n<p>Apologies for all the confusion!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Can you, dear reader, send me (or post in comments) an example of a Noetherian ring A and finite A-modules M, N such that the canonical map RHom_A(M, A) &otimes;^L_A N &#8212;&#8211;> RHom_A(M, N) is not an isomorphism in D(A)? &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~dejong\/wordpress\/?p=3014\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3014","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~dejong\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3014","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~dejong\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~dejong\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~dejong\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~dejong\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=3014"}],"version-history":[{"count":12,"href":"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~dejong\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3014\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3033,"href":"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~dejong\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3014\/revisions\/3033"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~dejong\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=3014"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~dejong\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=3014"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.math.columbia.edu\/~dejong\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=3014"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}